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When worlds collide: Joining Web3 and crypto from Web2

A friend of mine who is a seasoned Web2 tech executive joined a Web3 company in June. A switched-on operator, he asked to speak with all 16 staff before deciding to join the firm.

This shows that Web3 joiners need to really hone in on the mission when jumping ship from the old tech world.

Is the blockchain tech business model really plausible? You almost need to be a seasoned venture capitalist or world-class engineer when considering a new projects potential to build a new L1 blockchain as promised and, thus, deliver your token rewards.

The risk-reward metrics mean there are opportunities for great success. But with great success comes great tax problems…

 

 

Web2 to Web3
Taking the leap from Web2 to Web3 is not for the fainthearted.

 

 

The first thing I see is that everyone in the space has an innovative mindset early adopters, the change-makers and people not allergic to change. People love telling you how early they adopted, explains Lucy Lin, founder of Forestlyn, a Web3 marketing agency. She spent 15 years in various corporate roles before discovering crypto and blockchain in 2017. She says 2022 feels different its more welcoming, for one.

Five years ago, it was infested with crypto bro mentality and behavior, she says. At the time, it was the Wild West: anything goes, a lack of process, young and inexperienced. I dont want to discount that, but in those days, that was rampant. There was a severe lack of female representation.

Lucy Lin
Lucy Lin of Forestyln.

Im glad to see an increasing amount of diversity and inclusion more women, ages, sexual orientations, races, etc. in the space these days.

Scams are still as pervasive as ever, but the space is maturing, and many more diverse people with a variety of skill sets are entering, Lin tells Magazine.

As the industry grows up, its becoming a great career move for many. But its a whole new world than the one theyre used to. So, here are some reflections from the leap-takers, investors and founders whove jumped from Web2.

 

 

 

 

The game is played on different fields

The jump from Web2 to Web3 is most apparent at the executive level: Googles former vice president Surojit Chatterjee now serves as Coinbases chief product officer. Amazons Pravjit Tiwana left his position as general manager of Amazon Web Services Edge Services to become the chief technology officer of Gemini. Lyfts former chief financial officer Brian Roberts joined NFT marketplace OpenSea. The former head of gaming at YouTube now leads Polygon Studios as its CEO, and AirBnBs former human resources director also joined Polygon in June.

To compete, Google is building its own Web3 division.

The most demanded job titles in the metaverse and Web3 space include NFT social media and community managers, content writers and editors, blockchain developers, front-end and back-end engineers, media reporters, growth marketing managers, project managers and gamification strategists.

Angie Malltezi used to be a tech management consultant at a top global management firm, working with C-suites at Fortune 500s.

Angie Malltezi
Angie Malltezi of Shipyard Software. Source: LinkedIn

In 2021, she jumped ship to a Web3 exchange group, and now shes the chief of staff at Shipyard Software.

Like many others whove made the leap, particularly those coming from the Web2 world, shes found it something of a culture shock.

In Web3, traditional business etiquette often isnt followed. People will ghost you last minute or drop deals without any notice, she says. People wont sign NDAs. Theres a lack of long-term thinking and planning and, perhaps, simple immaturity.

She says that on the surface, Web3 is informal, remote-first and collaborative, and the competition is yourself and business is done via text messages on Telegram. But the business operator mindset isnt as strong, and projects err on the side of spend to please as a principle of managing finances.

Its an experimental mindset of Lets go innovate and throw whatever money we can at this rather than conservative, strategic investments tied to business cases with a clear ROI.

But Malltezi says there are many more similarities than differences between Web2 and Web3. Both have the desire to innovate, try new things and establish a collaborative culture. And both face similar challenges managing tokenholders or stockholders.

 

 

Shipyard Software creates tailor-made solutions for trading cryptocurrencies.

 

 

But Web3 projects sometimes try to go around problems rather than deal with them.

In Web2, there is the acceptance and understanding of how regulatory and government bodies impact the businesss bottom line; and as such, these institutions factor in business strategy decisions and partnerships.

The recruiters pulse

Web3 recruiter Kate Osumi tells Magazine shes noted a few trends among those who want to make the leap:

  • They are frustrated by the red tape, waiting and ready to build but needing considerable signoffs;
  • They want autonomy to call the shots;
  • They want the flexibility of remote work, to promote a global community of entrepreneurs and product builders;
  • And they are future-forward, believing Millennials and Gen Z should continually question the old system, asking themselves, But why do we have to do it that way? This new wave of builders is interested in more opportunities for autonomous economic growth.

But isnt that just every stereotypical lazy career-jumping millennial, I ask?

No, she argues. The work ethic can be even stronger in Web3 because they have skin in the game. The incentives are aligned differently in token economies.

The teams are generally distributed and remote-first, and everyone is responsible for their own tasks.

Osumis own journey was from human resources at Facebook from 2018 to December 2021, to experimenting with working with a variety of DAOs in 2021, to finally joining Serotonin a Web3 marketing firm and product studio with a client recruitment services arm in January 2022.

 

 

DAOs
Joining a bunch of DAOs can be a culture shock for Web2 employees.

 

 

During her DAO days, Osumi quickly became a core member of Digitalax, a Web3 fashion DAO. This swift trajectory was just a matter of showing up every day and engaging with the community.

DAOs might be the future of business, but right now, they dont seem very focused on business.

The other problem for Osumi was that her real world expenses, cost, well money. The DAOs got too maxi in a way, a little much at times, with bills and rent, I couldnt just make that jump full-time. The markets down, Discords went down, treasuries were hacked, it was all still a concern.

The DAOs were fun at first. But the more DAOs I joined, the more founders I spoke to they hadnt even worked out tax considerations. The money was flowing, but they are still a dreamland for now.

Web3 is more like Web1: Code fast

Along those lines, Karl Jacob, co-founder and CEO of Bacon Protocol, suggests that Categorizations of Web3 are pretty false. Hes been around since before the dot-com boom and even built Springfield.com for the creators of The Simpsons in the mid-1990s.

Web 1
Remember Web1? Source: Twitter

His company Dimension X was acquired by Microsoft in the late 90s, and he was even an adviser at Facebook though he admits he didnt know what social networking was when he first met Mark Zuckerberg.

Culturally, this period feels more like Web1, he says. The Web1 motto was Those who ship code win. In Web3, again, it is whoever ships code wins.

The ethos building for others to build on top of reminds me of the Web1 playbook. The ecosystem pays you back for participating.

He noted that in Web1, proposals to change the internet effectively were voted on by the community. But today, DAOs could end up being a better structure for incentivized outputs. On the other hand, we could remake mistakes, regarding voting structures.

Jacob founded LoanSnap in 2017, which started as a Web2 fintech company. However, the firm realized it could underwrite mortgages faster and more efficiently with blockchain technology and became Bacon Protocol.

According to Jacob, blockchain is a honeypot for attracting talent.

Web3 is a shiny new thing everyone wants to work on it. Real engineering is happening. Crypto security is hard, and people are attracted to working on hard problems.

Product management happens differently in Web3

Web3 product development relies less on analytics than Web2. Its messier and less scientific. In Web3, product development feedback happens during a product build.

This sort of feedback is both good and bad, Hedge founder Sebastian Grubb tells Magazine. Grubb spent five years at Google as a product manager, up until October 2021, building products with large teams and was looking to try something new. Playing around with different DeFi protocols, he became really interested in building one himself.

An advantage of Web3 is that you usually get a direct line of contact with users, via social media, that would usually not happen in old tech companies. Some teams do see this as a disadvantage since customers usually only reach out when they have complaints.

Though, Overall, the space is very welcoming, with everyone trying to help each other out and help solve similar roadblocks, notes Grubb.

One of the reasons Web2 analytics and product metrics are less used in Web3 is that they are less useful, says Malltezi:

Web2 has spent the last 15 years finely defining how to calculate CAC [cost for customer acquisition] and how to measure LTV [customer lifetime value], yet Web3 has misaligned incentives that make inferring user behavior with data unreliable.

 

 

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So, Web2 folks need to ask questions and look at the business model and ecosystem first before jumping.

Yash Patel, general partner at Telstra Ventures, suggests the tech is key. And as a later-stage startup investor, Patel expects traction. Due diligence on tokenomics is my North Star. I focus on user acquisition plus tokenomics, yet the data analytics of where the last three clicks came from is much harder in Web3.

To an extent, airdrops are customer acquisition costs renamed, he says.

 

 

Telstra Ventures
Yash Patel of Telstra Ventures on CNBC. Source: CNBC.

 

 

So, understand the roadmap and tokenomics when you jump

Do your homework before jumping to Web3, and consider the advantages and disadvantages of getting paid in tokens. Ex-Googler-turned-DeFi-man Grubb suggests that Its still a bit hard to pay people in crypto in the U.S., though quite a few companies are popping up trying to solve this problem. Also, weve still seen people wanting fiat for regular employment, so its a mix of more infrastructure needed as well as demand.

Though this hasnt stopped some companies from famously paying their staff in crypto.

Getting paid in tokens is not the same as getting equity in a business. The faster access to liquidity with tokens is both a blessing and a curse since employees are more likely to join but may leave as soon as they get liquidity, Grubb tells Magazine.

However, I think this is a good thing, as equity/options in previous companies asked employees to take huge risks with little horizon for liquidity unless the company got acquired or went public.

Web3 salaries being paid in tokens also mean they can be volatile. Given that all startups are risky, cashing out a percentage of tokens as soon as possible is always smart.

It may be a good idea to ask to see a capitalization table and consider who invested and when those tokens are unlocked and can be dumped.

Web3 operates within a still-questionable regulatory environment with perverse incentives. Founders and employees should want control and to make sure their team doesnt get dumped on, cautions Web2 (Luxury Escapes) and now Web3 (Pocketworlds) founder, Anton Bernstein. Then there are tax issues.

 

 

 

 

Beware the pitfalls of token taxation

Former Web2 employees need to come to terms with a baffling new array of terminology about tokenomics and vesting and must work out whether being paid in locked tokens is worth the risk of them going to zero and still having to pay a massive tax bill down the line.

Shane Brunette, founder of CryptoTaxCalculator, suggests determining ones income tax liability and converting this amount back to fiat as soon as the tokens are received.

New Web3 participants need to consider the tax implications of being paid in locked tokens, which can be uncertain due to the lack of clear guidelines, Brunette tells Magazine.

As an example, the employee could initially realize income at a high price, and if the token dropped before the employee sold, this could lead to an inflated tax bill. In the case that the token drops to zero, in some jurisdictions it could even mean that the employee is left with a tax debt.”

Potentially shortened timeframes to profitably?

Its just so early still. Web3 joiners may believe in the decentralized ethos, but they may not have the technical knowledge of what is being built. Web3 joiners making a career switch rely on the promises of founding teams.

Web3 companies with good business models have the potential to go to market faster, offering a potentially faster path to profitably. These can be powerful incentives to join. But theres a major conceptual difference between the two spheres that Web3 joiners need to be keenly aware of, according to Sanjay Raghavan, head of Web3 and blockchain initiatives at Roofstock.

Web2 companies have traditionally considered their walled-garden technology stack as their core IP. Web3, on the other hand, is based on open source and decentralization, giving power back to the people. In this new model, code is no longer your IP rather, its about creating a passionate, involved community. Thats your competitive moat.

And see if something is actionable whats real and whats not real, says Raghavan.

 

 

 

 

Block by block: Blockchain technology is transforming the real estate market

Property is the worlds single largest store of wealth, and if the cryptocurrency and blockchain world is seeking an express route to mass adoption, it could do worse than partnering with the real estate industry.

According to a September 2021 report by Savills World Research, the estimated value of all the worlds real estate stands at $326.5 trillion. By comparison, crypto-sector market capitalization was about $1 trillion in mid-July.

 

 

 

 

The property market, moreover at least its commercial real estate segment is also characterized by costly entry barriers and asymmetrical information that favor insiders. Its fees are high, paperwork onerous, and deeds are sometimes defective, falsified or missing. Some properties can take years to move another way of saying its market is illiquid. All in all, it isnt surprising that many believe this market is ripe for disruption, particularly through blockchain-enabled tokenization.

This notion of tokenizing real estate isnt entirely new. As far back as 2019, for example, a 6.5-million-euro villa in Boulogne, outside Paris, was tokenized. One million shares were put up for sale on the Ethereum blockchain, the first property in France ever sold as a blockchain transaction. An individual could have purchased a part of the luxury villa for as little as 6.5 euros.

Will everything be fractionalized?

Last years nonfungible token (NFT) breakout and real properties are nonfungible, i.e., not interchangeable along with some more supportive regulations, like Regulation Crowdfunding (Reg CF) in the United States, have trained the spotlight more squarely on crypto and property partnerships. This years metaverse hype, including Yugo Labs record-breaking virtual land auction, has not discouraged activity in the real property world, either.

Web3 will be all about ownership, owning fractionalized shares, says Bobby Singh, founder of the NiftySky DAO, speaking at Junes NFT.NYC 2022 convention, which featured an entire track on tokenized real estate. Imagine fractionalizing the Empire State Building into 2 billion shares. An individual could own a piece of the Empire State Building for several dollars.

 

 

Times Square during NFT.NYC 2022 convention

 

 

Ownership creates its own momentum, Singh continued. If you become a collector, an owner, youre more likely to talk about it. More owners mean more excitement. The concept of title is very important.

Blockchain has the potential to transform real estate, Lamont Black, associate professor in DePaul Universitys department of finance and real estate, tells Magazine. Real estate is all about records of ownership and how a property is financed, he explains, and blockchain is ideally suited as a shared system of record-keeping for this type of application.

Many of these principles are already being applied to digital real estate in the metaverse, adds Black, while the ideas behind Web3 of which the metaverse is one part are very much rooted in ownership of digital assets, including basic things like personal data.

The efficiency and certainty that comes with tokenization is undeniable, David Tawil, president and co-founder at ProChain Capital, tells Magazine, and this hasnt been lost on the real estate industry.

A market that dwarfs the cryptoverse

If one accepts Savills numbers, the value of the worlds real estate is more than 300 times the size of the crypto and blockchain sector, which recently slumped below $1 trillion in market capitalization. That disparity hasnt been lost on observers.

If even just 0.5% of the total $280 trillion global property market were tokenised in the next five years, it would become a $1.4 trillion market, wrote Moore Global, a global accountancy, advisory and consulting network in August.

Alternatively, if one uses Savills estimate of a $327-trillion market: If just 1% of the global real estate market were tokenized, it would triple the current market cap of the entire cryptocurrency world.

 

 

 

About four-fifths of the worlds real estate is residential, according to Savills. Commercial real estate accounts for only about one-tenth of the total, but that might be where tokenization first makes an impact, some say.

Singh, a veteran of the New York commercial real estate business, explained at the NFT.NYC convention that the legacy commercial real estate market has a lot of friction and is burdened by a lack of liquidity. Innovations like blockchain-based NFTs can help with record-keeping because the blockchain is transparent, and fractionalization will make real estate more liquid.

 

 

 

 

We believe this market will be more open to alternate sources of capital raising, including tokenization, Navonil Roy, CEO of United Arab Emirates-based LandOrc, tells Magazine. His firm facilitates lending for the real estate industry by providing access to decentralized financing, using land titles in nonfungible token form as a collateral.

Capital formation is often an obstacle in real estate ventures, and tokenization can open the door for a broader pool of investors, Sean Stein Smith, assistant professor in the department of economics and business at Lehman College, tells Magazine, by being able to tokenize and bifurcate the ownership and custody of the underlying physical real estate asset. It can also enable peer-to-peer secondary transactions so a robust second market can also be developed.

The fact that crypto transactions are conducted in real-time offers potential advantages, too, such as increasing the speed with which mortgages are approved and transactions are completed, adds Stein Smith.

Obstacles remain

Despite the enormous potential, blockchain technology has made relatively small inroads in the area of property rights so far. The Boulogne villa cited above was more of an exception than a rule.

Blockchain is a technology that requires coordination among market participants. Until there is more adoption of this technology, the impact will be limited, Black tells Magazine, adding:

Another hurdle is the role of government. Because real estate title is largely regulated by local governments, the recording of ownership on a blockchain will require government adoption as well. The forward-thinking and nimble municipalities will lead the way.

The promise of a globalized, tokenized real estate market with secondary market trading has taken some time because it required getting multiple licenses, Max Dilendorf, partner at the Dilendorf Law Firm and who has been working on real estate tokenization projects since 2017, tells Magazine. Securitize LLC led the way, he says, becoming a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission-registered transfer agent operating on the blockchain about three years ago, but companies have spent years and years to get licenses in the U.S. as well as Asia and Europe.

Another obstacle is that so much of the required data to complete a tokenized real estate transaction does not occur natively on the blockchain. It has to be entered manually. University of Basel professor Fabian Schr, for example, wanted to invest a few hundred Swiss francs in a multifamily house in Detroit, as he recounted in a May 2022 Credit Suisse Insights interview:

The technical process related to the token functioned seamlessly. But then came something that made Schr cancel the transaction: There were around 150 pages of legal documents that I had to read and sign.

The real estate sector, too, is sometimes resistant to change, which could impede adoption. Real estate brokers and agents are relatively conservative in their adoption to new technology due to both the monetary sums involved and the implications associated with property ownership rights, notes Stein Smith.

More success stories may be required, too, before things really get moving. Real estate owners looking to raise money have a single goal: lower cost of capital, Yael Tamar, CEO and co-founder of SolidBlock a real estate tokenization platform tells Magazine. Until they are convinced that there is an audience of investors looking specifically for property-backed security tokens, they will not bother with nice-to-have solutions.

Then, too, the DeFi summer may have inadvertently slowed things down, with DeFi lenders becoming spoiled by the unusually high lending returns they enjoyed during this highly liquid period, suggests Roy, adding:

Their expectations of returns in the digital asset world cannot be replicated with real world assets, which are grounded by real world economics. This change in mindset is the most daunting obstacle.

The path ahead could be long, too. When Savills Marie Hickey, director of U.K. commercial research, recently wrote about four trends shaping retail real estate globally, there was no mention at all of tokenization or blockchain technology. Asked about this, Hickey tells Magazine, Tokenized real estate is just too insignificant to be cited as a key trend at this point.

Positive regulatory developments in the U.S.

Still, recent regulation changes in the U.S. could prompt a boom in tokenized projects in Dilendorfs view. Reg CF, whose fundraising cap was boosted from $1 million to $5 million in late 2020, will pave the way, predicts Dilendorf. Reg CF enables a company to fundraise among both accredited and non-accredited investors, and there is no cap on the number of investors who can participate.

 

 

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Meanwhile, alternative trading systems (ATS) based in the U.S. are building bridges to ATS platforms in Europe and Asia. So, now if you put your digital real estate token on a platform in the U.S., an investor from Europe or Asia can participate in a secondary market trade, Dilendorf tells Magazine. This could boost the secondary market substantially.

Transaction fees are low on these blockchain-based ATS platforms like Securitize as well, while smart contracts ensure that transfers are executed between Know Your Customer-verified accounts only. Its the creation of a new way to raise capital for small firms, which is almost like an initial public offering, adds Dilendorf.

NFTs or simple tokenization?

What form might property tokenization take? Are NFTs most promising? Simple tokenization? Or maybe some other forms, such as Soulbound tokens, or SBTs, as proposed recently by Vitalik Buterin?

Tamar says tokenization could assume a variety of forms. Some will have a part of their cap table on Web3 (for decentralized finance); some will issue NFTs for timeshares and rentals; and others will use tokens for payments or asset management.

 

 

 

 

Jarib Figueredo, a candidate for the State House of Representatives in the U.S., who joined Singh on the NFT.NYC 2022 panel on Understanding the Value of Tokenized Real Estate, notes that in Florida, there are issues transferring deeds, and these can be improved with NFTs digital files that can prove ownership. Timesharing is another promising use case.

In the future, real estate title could be issued as a nonfungible token, Black tells Magazine. The owner of the property would maintain ownership of the token in a digital wallet. Changes in the value of the property would be reflected as changes in the value of the NFT. Further:

When the owner wants to sell the property, they could list the property NFT on an NFT exchange. Buyers could bid on the NFT, and the NFT would be transferred to the digital wallet of the winning bidder. This would make the secondary market for real estate much more liquid and transparent.

Dilendorf, for his part, doesnt see NFTs or DAOs playing a dominant role in the real estate marketplace because they are essentially unregulated, unlike Reg CF-enabled digital securities, which are SEC-sanctioned.

Which kind of real estate projects are most ripe for tokenization? Landmark assets will be the most successful, says Tamar, and top-tier stadiums will fall under this category. Large institutional quality properties will be more likely to get tokenized, as they will experience more liquidity, and they will attract institutions during the primary sale unlike smaller properties.

 

 

 

 

Raising up the worlds poor

Blockchain technology, too, can be of use in large swaths of the developing world where the existing infrastructure for ensuring property rights is weak or non-existent, Black tells Magazine, referencing Peruvian economist Hernando de Soto, who has argued that property rights are the key to economic growth. If blockchain can improve property rights like real estate ownership in developing countries, this could be transformative for entire economies, says Black.

In an oft-cited Wall Street Journal opinion piece, de Soto emphasized blockchains ease-of-access record-keeping that can be continuously updated as property ownership changes. Most of the worlds population has no access at all to a formal system of property rights, he wrote, adding:

If Blockchain technology can empower public and private efforts to register property rights on a single computer platform, we can share the blessings of private-property registration with the whole world.

Global disrupter or niche player?

Can the crypto industry reach a point in the future where a significant proportion of real estate will be tokenized e.g., more than 10% of the global real estate universe or will this remain a niche area?

I can imagine that day i.e., 10% tokenization says Tawil, but tokenization of real property ownership is likely going to take some time, especially in places like the United States where large infrastructural changes will be required.

Property deeds are recorded and stored in thousands of municipal offices, after all. These will have to be digitized. Then, too, there exists a large lobby of professionals that profit from property transactions, which may be marginalized or eliminated in a tokenized property ownership world, such as lawyers, title insurance, brokers, etc., Tawil tells Magazine.

 

 

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According to Black, Tokenization of 10% of the real estate market is not too difficult to imagine. Blockchain and NFTs provide a digital record of ownership that can be associated with physical assets, including real estate, autos and any form of durable good.

My prediction is that a large part of the property market will be tokenized to leverage the blockchain economy, but the top 20 percentile by demand, size, performance, brand, location, etc. will enjoy 80% of the financing opportunities, adds Tamar.

As with any disruptive technology, some business sectors could suffer if tokenized property catches on. Title insurance companies could be among the first to feel the pain. Once there is a clear and transparent ledger that records who owns a property and whether there are any liens on the property, there will no longer be any justification for title company fees, Black tells Magazine. Still, success often begets success, or as Black puts it:

As societies become more familiar with blockchain as an infrastructure for maintaining digital assets, this could open the door for applying some of these same principles to physical assets like real estate.

 

 

 

 

The risks and benefits of VCs for crypto communities

Traditional venture capital funds drive valuations through multiple funding rounds. Startups aim for initial public offerings or other exits. Then the sharemarket decides upon a more realistic valuation.

But in cryptoland, tokens introduce market capitalization while a company is being built.

This means there are a lot of competing interests and agendas. Token sales for Web3 startups can be the bastard child of a personality cult leader founder and a bunch of VCs, raised by a group of Discord-dwelling degens manning a DAO, while speculators trade 24/7 and the media circles.

So, how do founding teams get the balance right between the needs and wants of the VCs and whats best for the community? Are the interests of VC funds aligned with the interests of token holders?

 

VC Funding
VC funding is necessary, but are VCs always working in the best interest of the community?

 

 

Even VCs were LUNAtics

Lets start with LUNAs collapse. Who did the due diligence? VC funding can have a big impact on whether the community invests or thinks a project is legitimate or not. The stamp of big-name funds carries credibility and traction before retailers can invest.

Retail investors got rekt when Terras algorithmic stablecoin project and ecosystem collapsed in May. The stories of homes and life savings being lost and suicide hotlines being posted on Reddit were alarming. Memes of Squid Games and Bernie Maddoffs 150-year prison sentence were mashed up next to Terra founder Do Kwons attempt to save the ecosystem with a phoenix-like token called Luna 2.0.

Perhaps representative of retail investors in general, one retail investor who lost a substantial amount when the algorithmic stablecoin collapsed told me, he didnt really get it but thought it was too big to collapse overnight.

On the other hand, some funds that trade complex financial products for a living made a killing.

Who did the due diligence? Who said pegging two related coins via complex math was a good idea? Most were just plain confused.

One very senior risk analyst at a crypto VC fund told me he held grave reservations regarding the algorithm stablecoin. But his team was assuaged by the cap table having some big names in crypto capital.

And he actually read LUNAs filings from the United States Securities and Exchange Commission.

VCs look at cap tables and see who else invested. LUNA was widely considered a blue chip by then, leading among crypto analysts and then reputable institutions, such as Three Arrows Capital, Pantera Capital, and Coinbase Ventures. Pantera notably got its LUNA exit timing right, while Three Arrows Capital is in liquidation and has filed for bankruptcy.

 

 

 

 

Everyone wants to be the smartest guy in the room. With the LUNA example, VC backers must be seeing something you dont, was the thought, according to that risk analyst.

It always was a Ponzi, no point mincing words, he tells Magazine.

He argues that VCs can distort everything, even in who supports what L1 chains. Its a PR war; VCs turbocharge the machine. I call it the VC hunger games.

This is one high-profile example of the perils of VC funding for crypto communities.

What is a crypto VC anyway?

There is a difference between VCs and the retail investor community, and Web3 blurs the lines. Traditional VC fund managers often push for large capital deployment, a board seat, rapid growth and expedited exits. But Web3 VCs are often early investors who first engage as active community members, providing liquidity and governance to build out a project.

Community itself is a vexed concept, as participants can literally sell out, and institutions are part of the community too, having been involved from early on. Ethereum had 3,000-odd participants, a mix of individuals and institutions.

 

 

Squid Games memes emerged quickly after the LUNA collapse, as its founder Do Kwon is South Korean. Source: Twitter

 

 

First, we need to understand who VCs are and where they come from, which will help us understand the dilemma of building an organic Web3 community.

The first crypto native funds emerged from investors who got lucky and made a killing on early crypto projects and were suddenly flush with cash. Many had worked on exchanges in the early days and, consequently, were on first-name terms with every token project that tried to get listed. So, they know pretty much everyone in the ecosystem and usually get the first bite at the early funding rounds of any decent project trying to raise capital.

Coinbase, Ethereum, Consensys and others produced some extremely wealthy individuals who went on to become investors in many projects. Some launched their own VC funds or firms, while others have stayed low-key to investing. But they all know each other, so they can get early access to deals.

Many exchanges also established incubators or accelerators, such as Binance Labs and Huobi, that incubate super early projects and take a percentage of tokens for funding. They can leverage their network for funding and promises of support, such as listing on their exchanges and social media help.

More recently, individuals have pooled capital to become institutional investors e.g., coordinated capital investing through investment DAOs. Legally pooled funds management and taxation laws generally lead to these conversations around creating a DAO and/or legal investment vehicle structure.

So, Web3 VC firms now include a spectrum from 20-something degens who have established their own funds, electricians mining Bitcoin since 2013 to Softbank.

Mark Lurie, a VC turned Web3 founder, says:

What do we even mean by community versus a VC firm? People love a villain and hate the man, but at the end of the day, they are all just people. VC in Web3 is a messy, amorphous concept in Web3. Is a group of 20-year-olds with a website an entity, a VC firm, or is that just a bunch of 20-year-olds? VCs also could just be a few whales.

Yet, there is always a trade-off between an organic community and exit horizons when dealing with tradable liquid tokens.

 

 

 

 

Crypto VC firm to a hedge fund is a continuum

As liquidity is a key aspect of crypto investing, exit time preferences constantly vary compared to traditional VC investments. Liquidity refers to the ease with which an asset or security can be converted into cash at market price.

One of the clearest ways in which VC interests collide with the communitys is in token lockups.

VCs often buy a huge chunk of tokens at an early stage at a very low price, and these tokens are often time-locked, so they cant be sold for one or two years. When the time is up, VCs face the dilemma of dumping their tokens which makes them a fortune but tanks the price of the communitys holdings or hanging on. Typically, VCs are perceived to choose the former.

Lurie thinks the crypto community should create VC review systems for better community building. The community is aware of the quick flip. On-chain vesting is the only thing holding VCs to that vesting schedule, he says.

I wish they could rank VC firms by whether they engaged in quick flips so founders are aware if they are really dealing with a VC or more of a hedge fund.

The capital cycle is different in Web3 compared to traditional VC. Bear and bull cycles also mean that cash preservation can distort investor markets. Exits may need to be expedited in a bear market.

VCs may face conflicts between their own cash position and helping an invested company. Web3 lock-ups of a year or so, for example, are famously shorter than in the traditional VC realm, of, say, seven years.

 

 

a16z
a16z has provided VC funding to everyone who is anyone in crypto. Source: a16z

 

 

Staking (especially in a bull market) may attract VC funding away from riskier seed VC plays. Staking a retail investment once a token lists on a retail exchange can provide better cash returns than a cheap seed deal pre-token launch, locked up for 12 months, that tanks when it lists as a token.

Crypto VC firms invest at various stages and, at times, act like crypto hedge funds. Venture capital invests in startups to accelerate their growth and generate high returns for investors. Hedge funds traditionally invest in a variety of investments, ranging from stocks, bonds, commodities and currencies using complex structures and leveraging in order to boost returns more rapidly.

David Mack, managing director of Koji Capital, tells Magazine, its a continuum:

Crypto VCs are effectively hybrids: When teams are raising seed capital to get resourced to deliver a product, our approach is the same as most venture investors. However, when we realize our investment and hold liquid crypto assets, we start to resemble a hedge fund, often using that liquidity to support the early product we invested in.

This kind of approach is an emergent feature of crypto-focused firms, and founders are really in search of this capability when selecting their investors, says Mack.

If assets are tokenized and liquid, then VCs become hedge funds in the long run. A shift to tokenization, from passive to active assets, is more like hedge fund activities. This can create enduring conflict.

 

 

VC
When VC bets pay off, they pay off big time.

 

 

Liquidity vs. long-term community building

There is a massive conflict between VC liquidity and long-term community building, opines Jonathan Allen, who started his first VC fund out of college. He now runs Mirana Ventures, is a core contributor to BitDAO, zkDAO andeduDAO, and sits on the PleasrDAO board.

Liquidity allows VCs to think about short-term profits in conflict with communities building for the long term.

Liquidity raises a bunch of new issues. Quality communities mean people who are there for the long haul. We have barely scratched the surface of a healthy community that incentivises better community members, argues Allen.

Allen was also a U.S. Army Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Technician (bomb disarmer) who got into crypto after an injury suffered in Afghanistan in 2012. The EOD motto is perhaps suited to being a crypto VC, too: Initial success or total failure.

He argues that crypto VC has evolved over cycles with increasing community exposure and less VC funding now favored. The alternative is fair distributions of tokens to the most active community members and project users to ensure the most valuable people to the project are motivated by the correct incentives.

We dont want a lot of VCs to own a lot of tokens. A lot of VC funds are maybe not as helpful as individuals or communities. We often advise our portfolio companies to save 30% for angels. Individuals who we feel need to, and can be, more helpful.

Angels are typically the investors who first write a small cheque in return for equity when the company is at a very early stage and the companys valuation is still low.

While the exit cycles in crypto are a key difference from traditional VC, founders can also determine the lock-ups so good-faith investors cannot dump their profits.

Nonetheless, for Allen, community building is key. With a lot of invested projects, we let the code stand for itself, he says. Its about building authentic community missionaries versus mercenaries first movers at scale. VC funding in the form of blitzscaling can grow the wrong kind of community.

Too often, people are free riders they hold tokens and dont do anything.

 

 

 

 

VCs add investor network effects and tokenomics advice

While theres certainly an increasing hostility to VCs in the industry, some founders reject this angst.

Josh Tobkin dropped out of a large economics scholarship to play professional poker and learned to think in probabilities. By the last crypto winter of 2018, he had founded Unity Chain, a crypto lab in Taiwan. He has some well-known investors, including FTX, United Overseas Bank, Coinbase and Razer.

He is now working on a novel blockchain consensus algorithm: the creation of an intralayer that bridges all layer 1s, layer 2s and decentralized apps across all ecosystems. A more secure infrastructure to prevent instances like the Ronin Bridge hack or the liveness faults of Solana. His current project, SupraOracles, plans to have a token, with the infrastructure launching soon.

He believes a VC lead investor adds great value, as the complication is taking a check from everyone. VCs make it much easier to close deals both with other investors as well as social proofing for large corporate partners.

Tobkin tells Magazine, Decentralized retail raises are great, but it helps to find (VC) funds who are passionate about your project when it aids their entire portfolio. Projects need a mixture of both types of funding for their growth whilst balancing decentralization.

Never go full VC, and never go full retail.

Tobkin says VCs played an important role in SupraOracles: VCs were necessary to get started. The cap table [table of investors] amounts are very balanced. We didnt oversell. 1% max for each investor on strict vesting terms. Vesting refers to when equity can be cashed out.

Tobkin also values the Web2 introductions that more traditional VCs can offer.

Crucially, the leads for our rounds have worked for it. They have a massive list of traditional Web2 in need of our exact solution, and they are making introductions. They sell for us its a win-win. Retail generally cant do that unfortunately.

With one integration, were bridging Web2 to Web3 and vice versa. We have VCs to thank for it.

 

 

 

 

Wen token sale?

Tara Fung is another Web3 founder grateful for VCs. She is a Harvard graduate who transitioned to tech with finance skills and a general curiosity.A former chief revenue officer at two centralized fintechs, she wanted to build on the new frontier. Her startup, Co:Create, seeks to help successful NFT projects scale.

Becoming a founder in 2022, she received $25 million in VC funding led by a16z. Her thinking was that the resources would help us deliver faster, and I could focus on building (as I was) feeling like this would be a rocky year.

A16z closed a $4.5-billion crypto fund in May 2022 despite treacherous market conditions. She met a16z partner Chris Dixon four times before meeting the other partners. She notes theres not a ton of diligence at seed. Its a diverse cap table, and obviously, the fundraising timeline sped up due to a16zs participation. She also hand-selected Web3 native angels to be included on the cap table.

 

 

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She highly values that a16z has an in-house research team that I can go to with a problem, such as best practice for tokenomic design. Thats a huge value add. Tokenomic design is an emerging, complex and sometimes arbitrary science.

This is an important theme. How the companies are structured early on has important ramifications. What we do now can set us up for success VCs offer a level of professionalism.

Token sales too early can be a double-edged sword. Fung explains that one challenging aspect of building in Web3 is that founders must build publicly, not behind closed doors.

When and if to form a DAO is now another vexed question alongside wen to have a token sale?

DAOs offer great promise, but what does the timeline look like? You have to be thoughtful and create clarity at the start and let the community evolve.

 

 

Building
VCs can actually be quite helpful in building a community, too.

 

 

Investor protections

Lurie, founder of Shipyard Software, agrees that VCs can work hand in hand with decentralized governance and bring major benefits to the community. He argues that in crypto, its necessary to decentralize governance because the community demands it. It is also a necessity to make the VC model work. VC funding is a competitive and a regulatory necessity to building a viable company, argues Lurie.

To me, a defining characteristic of a VC firm is that it steps up to ensure investor protections and good governance, says Lurie.

Lurie started out at VC Bessemer Venture Partners, and he has seen both sides of the VC spectrum, raising several VC rounds, some hard, some easy, for his startups. This includes an early NFT protocol ICO in 2017.

Decentralized governance is a trade-off with nimbleness. Its tough to start a fully decentralized company from day one. You need to strike a balance. Startups are in a constant battle, and few people make it to the end of that journey.

One of the best reasons for VC-backing is governance a partner on a deal will hold founders accountable, he says.

Are faceless DAOs not accountable to investors?

Weve noted how a VCs interests can work against those of the community, but sometimes, the community can work against the interests of VCs. And communities can vote in a way that totally disregards the law or their obligations. In mid-June, Merit Circle DAO, a gaming DAO, voted to return the investment of a major play-to-earn guild turned early-stage investor Yield Guild Games (YGG) instead of paying out the 30x return it was owed.

 

 

 

 

What will this mean for VC investing in DAOs in the future if the community can simply overturn a contractual agreement with a vote? Whod stump up the funds in the first place?

As it happened, a reasonable deal was hammered out whereby YGG got a 10x return instantly, with no more vesting or risk of a lowered valuation. But it highlights that there are perils, too, for VC investors with the evolving and sometimes flaky nature of crypto communities.

 

 

 

 

 

Australia’s world-leading crypto laws are at the crossroads: The inside story

As crypto winter sets in once more, industry players in Australia, one of the worlds most crypto-friendly nations, watch closely for a shift in the regulatory climate.

Anthony Albanese, the new Australian Labor Party prime minister, has made regulating crypto a top priority. However, neither he nor his cabinet has given a clear indication of how it may approach the unregulated space.

 

 

Australia's crypto
No word yet on whether Australia’s innovative crypto legislation will go through.

 

 

Labor campaigned for government without a policy for cryptocurrency, says Senator Andrew Bragg, a member of the Liberal Party, which was recently cast into opposition after nine years in government.

The 37-year-old spearheaded a Senate report on crypto regulation last year that made 12 key recommendations on issues ranging from exchange registration to taxation and debanking. Speaking at the Australia Blockchain Week conference in March, he proposed the Digital Services Act, a legislative package that consolidated the reports recommendations into law.

Bragg
Senator Andrew Bragg has been leading the push for better crypto laws down under.

However, Braggs Liberal Party lost its parliamentary majority to the Labor Party in a federal election in May, and the acts future remains uncertain.

There have been no utterances about what Labors policies will be. It could be anything at this stage, he added.

The Treasury declined to comment on its crypto policy plans for the report. So far, the office has only clarified that it will continue to exclude crypto from being taxed as a foreign currency, following El Salvadors adoption of Bitcoin as legal tender.

Industry folk can only guess what the new government might do next, but Ron Tucker, founder and chair-emeritus of lobby group Blockchain Australia, sees a silver lining to this pregnant pause. He warns against the kind of knee-jerk responses to market volatility seen in other countries.

Though we need to protect consumers, if we rush regulation, we will likely get the settings wrong, which will stifle innovation in the ecosystem and lock Australia out of the future growth of the global crypto market, Tucker says.

In truth, the proposals made in the Bragg report are only about 70% of the way. They could do with more work, and recent events such as the collapse of TerraUSD and Celsius have shown where the gaps are. We are now at a critical juncture, and so this is a chance to ensure we dont head down the wrong path.

Pioneer of self-regulation

While the focus has been on knee-jerk bans and crackdowns elsewhere, Australia has been quietly trailblazing a progressive approach to crypto.

There is an unsung story of Australia as a first-mover in this space, says Tucker, who founded Bit Trade one of the countrys first successful cryptocurrency exchanges in 2013 and shortly after led the Digital Currency Code of Conduct initiative that set the best-practice standards for the self-regulatory model that has undergirded the Australian crypto industry since.

 

 

Blockchain Australia
Blockchain Australia developed a world-leading code of conduct.

 

 

Tucker recalls watching the pennies drop as he walked politicians in Canberra through the Bitcoin white paper back in 2014.

The government was very responsive and endorsed our proposals for a self-regulated code of conduct, which was the first of its kind in the world, he says.

There were not many other industry bodies in other countries at the time, but more soon followed.”

The proposed self-regulating model was exported after Tuckers group joined with counterparts in Singapore and the United States by setting up an informal alliance, the Global Blockchain Forum, in 2016. It then grew to have a dozen other member countries that coordinated through a multilateral memorandum of understanding based on the preexisting Australian code of conduct.

While this light-touch approach has given Australian projects space to grow over the years, the government will need to devote greater resources to formalize and enforce a regulatory model as mounting issues exert pressure on the ecosystem.

You need to get the balance right and have a principled approach that remains flexible enough to encourage innovation in the industry, says Caroline Malcolm, head of international public policy and research at Chainalysis an industry consulting firm and blockchain analysis company that recently set up shop in Canberra.

 

 

Crypto regs

 

 

Fraudulent advertising

Crypto ads are in the crosshairs of Australian regulators. The countrys top consumer watchdog, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, or ACCC, recently took Meta to court, alleging the company is legally responsible for losses incurred by users who engaged with scam crypto ads featuring fake celebrity endorsements that have run on Facebook since 2019. This has renewed the conversation around consumer protection for crypto investors in policy circles.

 

 

 

 

Malcolm predicts Australia will likely follow in the United Kingdoms footsteps when it comes to advertising.

Australia has historically had a regime for financial products similar to the U.K., so it is probable it would adopt the same standards for the advertising of crypto, she says.

These include stipulating that companies clearly include a risk disclosure that is put alongside the advertised benefits of the product. It would also see crypto companies come under the advertising regulatory regime and ensure they are responsible for the content of their ads, regardless of the legal structure of their business.

Mapping things out

Tucker believes that token mapping must be the new governments top priority.

This is the most important aspect, as it gives an overview of whats happening and provides a blueprint for the government to respond to new developments in this rapidly changing industry, he says.

A token mapping exercise was the third recommendation of the Bragg report, suggesting the government draft legal definitions of the different types of digital currencies by their functions. In March, Australias Treasury published a consultation paper on a proposed regulatory framework that featured a list of working definitions for tokens.

This paper contained a detailed token mapping that went much further than typical distinctions, like what security and payment tokens are, says Malcolm.

The report details at least 12 working category definitions for tokens in a non-exhaustive list. The government aims to complete the mapping exercise by the end of the year.

This shows a commitment by the government to get across what is going on, and this will be essential for future-proofing regulation here, Malcolm says. Keeping the recent momentum from this public consultation will be crucial, she adds.

The Treasurys paper also proposes rules for secondary service providers who operate as brokers, dealers, or operate a market for crypto assets. Its stated rationale is to minimize the risk consumers face when service providers become insolvent and they cannot withdraw their funds. Critically, however, it specifies that these rules would not apply to decentralized platforms or protocols, leaving DeFi alone.

 

 

 

 

This is a sign that Australia could end up with a very interesting model for the fast-moving DeFi space, says Malcolm.

Excluding DeFi itself is not a rogue approach, however, she says. The EU is excluding DeFi from its Markets in Crypto-Assets regulation, which is due to be finalized shortly. (Following our interview, the MiCA regulations were agreed on.) But the EU has also said they will be looking to write rules for DeFi in the near future.

If Australia were to do the same, how would it determine which entities are adequately decentralized?

Malcolm calls this the eternal question that hangs over regulators.

There is certainly a view from some policymakers that what is called DeFi is not always decentralized, she says. How decentralized are those platforms really?

If its sufficiently centralized, it should fall within the existing rules, she says. It is very hard to draw that line, but resolving this is key to determining where the rules apply.

 

 

Debanking
Debanking has been shown to be a huge problem for Australian crypto firms.

 

 

Disrupting debanking

Another persistent risk for crypto businesses is debanking when a bank cuts off services to businesses or people it determines to be risky.

The Australian government has identified debanking as a growing problem and recognizes that digital currency exchanges and fintech firms are disproportionately affected.

Debanking has been rampant in Australia since the early years of crypto, Tucker says. Our exchange has experienced debanking on at least 30 occasions.

We brought it to the ACCCs attention at the time, and they would have liked to have responded, but they were too understaffed to do anything about it, he adds.

Businesses should have a fundamental right to banking, just like individuals, but its not just about writing the laws. We need to make sure agencies like the ACCC have the human resources to manage and the teeth to pursue anti-competitive behavior, says Tucker.

 

 

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Although the Labor government has not announced a clear agenda for crypto, reinvesting and restaffing the public service is a policy priority for the Albanese administration. Under the previous government, outsourcing public jobs doubled between 2015 and 2020. The new government has already pledged 500 million Australian dollars for the first phase of rebuilding public sector capacity.

Malcolm agrees that finding qualified officials not just to write the rules but administer the legislation is critical, but it will be an uphill battle.

Capacity of expertise is very tight, she says. There is not enough expertise among the bureaucracy at the moment, and it takes time to find the right people. Its one thing to write the rules but quite another to have the resources to administer them, she adds.

Theres this strong perception that crypto doesnt want to be regulated. But what weve seen when countries put licensing rules in place is that the exact opposite happens. Suddenly, theres this rush to register because companies see it as a net positive. Many governments are struggling to keep up with this demand for licensing, as most recently seen in the United Kingdom.”

The same could happen in Australia when rules are standardized and the registration wave hits.

We really need a committee of technologists that acts as a bridging body between industry and government, Tucker says. A group established in partnership with Australias Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization would likely be the best avenue for this, he adds.

Collaboration over competition

The unprecedented nature of blockchain technology poses unique challenges for policymakers, which incentivizes governments to work together to identify regulatory best practices. Yet, with enormous potential economic value at stake, states are also vying to attract as much of the burgeoning investment it brings as possible.

Foreign investment in Australia has grown at around 8% per year for the past two decades, now standing at over 200% of total GDP. With finance remaining the third-largest sector for inbound investment, regulators are looking to harness crypto, blockchain and DeFi to spur growth further.

The fact is, we are in a race against the U.S., Japan, Singapore and other advanced economies, says Bragg. Its a race to build the most effective regulatory environment for cryptocurrency, and it plays out across investment, talent and consumer protection.

 

 

Race
Australia is in a race with other countries toward better regulations and attracting investment.

 

 

The Labor government has inherited world-leading policies from the Liberal Party when it comes to cryptocurrency. I believe this parliament can deliver on the bulk of the recommendations made in the Senate report.

Tucker says that while Australia is well positioned, with a strong financial services sector, it should prioritize collaboration with other economies over competition.

There is a far greater upside to international collaboration at this early stage, he says.

We should be learning from each other and closing loopholes together. A patchwork of contradictory laws across jurisdictions will weigh down the development of crypto globally.

Sound regulation has underpinned the robust development of Australias traditional finance sector. Its banking sector has historically been among the most profitable globally, while its compulsory national retirement scheme, called superannuation, was ranked the fifth-best pension scheme in the world last year.

Cryptocurrency is possibly the greatest economic opportunity this country has had since the advent of superannuation, says Tucker. But we must get the policy settings just right.

 

 

 

 

Thailand’s Crypto Utopia — ‘90% of a cult, without all the weird stuff’

The story of how a Bitcoin OG set up a Libertarian crypto community and commune for digital nomads on beautiful islands in Thailand three times and why he hasnt yet given up on the dream.

Its a wild tale involving unchecked merrymaking, crypto-influencers, police grillings, seasteading, a reported $20,000-a-month burn rate, rumors about shamans and drugs and a major collision between idealism and reality. It was also, by all accounts, a whole lot of fun.

 

 

Cryptopia
Cryptopia became the House of DAO, and a new version is planned.

 

 

The spectacular Cape Residences in Phuket, Thailand are a world away from the bohemian backpackers and Full Moon parties of Koh Pha-ngan where Ive spent the past few weeks researching Part 1 about crypto digital nomads living in paradise.

If youve ever imagined how a Bitcoin OG lives, Kyle Chasses villa probably fits in the bill, nestled in between residences housing members of the Royal Family of Dubai and early Apple investors.

There are four cars in the driveway, including an electric BMW charging up. Chasse is a big friendly bear of a man who greets me warmly and takes me on a tour of the seven-bedroom mansion where many of the 85-strong Master Ventures team does business, from social media videos to planning investments and Paid Network launch pad projects.

The beds are so large you could get lost; theres an indoor golf driving range; and as we take a look at the outdoor entertaining area, Chasse flips a switch, and a waterfall starts pouring from a great height into the pool. This is my favorite thing, he says.

This place is like a hub. Everyone comes here, they have lunch, eat and talk and hang out, play basketball. We have movie nights and dinner and stuff like that.

This is the latest and most scaled-back version of his dream to create a crypto commune for like-minded Libertarian dreamers. Hes tried twice before on Koh Pha-ngan, once on Coconut Island, and dabbled with setting it up as part of the ill-fated viral Cryptoland project the internet mercilessly destroyed.

 

 

 

 

The first and, so far, most successful version saw Chasse and friends take over the Utopia resort on Koh Pha-ngan for eight months. We had 35 villas and 70 people, he explains. We changed it to Cryptopia in 2018.

I think someone said that it was like 90% of a cult, without all the weird stuff.

 

 

The boys
Tone Vays, Kyle Chasse and Didi Taihuttu on Koh Pha-ngan.

 

 

But despite high-profile residents and visitors, including Tone Vays, Willy Woo and Didi Taihuttu of the Bitcoin family, the whole thing fell apart with furious locals, police grillings and a nasty falling out between Chasse and his business partner who saw him fire the entire Master Ventures team at once.

The Thai Board of Investments backed the next version, also planned for Koh Pha-ngan called House of DAO, which was promoted with flashy videos and an impressive-looking website before operations moved to the 700-bed Coconut Island resort in Phuket.

The big mystery is why he moved out of Koh Pha-ngan which Chasse has loved since he was a young backpacker to the more sedate Phuket?

Chasse explains that Phuket has a lot more infrastructure and transport links, a less transient population, and is a much better place to conduct business. But he refuses to comment on rumors Id heard on Koh Pha-ngan that once the local authorities became aware that a bunch of wealthy crypto folk had set up shop, they had started making all too frequent visits.

A year ago, the cops started visiting frequently, asking for donations for covid relief, a former Utopia resident tells me. The potential for this to escalate scared the House of DAO away from Koh Pha-ngan: Whereas Phuket is a rich area, so they dont stand out as much.

 

 

Willy Woo
Willy Woo and Tone Vays featured in promotional images.

 

 

Kyle Chasses story

Chasse grew up in Ventura County in California and never wanted to live a conventional life. Instead of college, he spent months backpacking around Europe before a friend started emailing about how amazing Thailand was.

I just had massive FOMO. I came over here in 2004 and started in Bangkok, he says. And then to Koh Pha-ngan for the Full Moon Party, and then just ended up island hopping for five weeks.

He spent nine months in Thailand on that trip and returned numerous times before making it his home in 2018.

In between, he discovered Bitcoin via media coverage of the legendary Silk Road. A regular on the Bitcointalk forum, he started up his own Bitcoin lottery in 2013, and by 2016, he had become a wealthy man. Bitcoin hit 1,000 bucks each and, in my mind, like, Okay, now Im good. Im never gonna have to work again in my life, he says.

At that point, I kind of took a bit of a step back from hustling, and I became very obsessed with just adoption.

 

 

 

 

People in the real world were not that eager to listen to Chasse extol the virtues of Bitcoin adoption, however. I always felt very, very isolated. I was only able to talk to people online, he says. The exception was at crypto conferences where everyone was on the same page:

All of a sudden, you step into a conference or even the city where its being held, and now suddenly, you feel immersed in crypto, and its a really amazing experience and feeling.

He became addicted to the optimism and energy of crypto conferences and would literally fly out to attend them in various locales every three to five days. That was super unsustainable, he says. So, then I decided that I really wanted to be able to have that environment (at home).

Instead of going to crypto conferences, why not bring the crypto community to him? He dreamed of creating a crypto commune that digital nomads could work from, where projects could be nurtured and incubated, and everybody could live and breathe crypto all day every day.

It would be a mecca on the planet for crypto entrepreneurs to come to and that just propagates throughout the cryptoverse, he says.

I figured that if I felt this way, there must be other people out there that feel this way, too. And so, I looked all over Koh Pha-ngan for a good place to set up.

 

 

Cryptopia
The gang took over Utopia resort and renamed it Cryptopia.

 

 

The concept of the Crypto Utopia recalls the mystical Beach from Alex Garlands novel of the same name a mystical place that everyone wants to find, but once they find it, everything starts to fall apart. Fittingly, the inspiration for the novel is said to be one of the beaches on Koh Pha-ngan.

Chasse has long been a fan of seasteading. Thats where you create a permanent home base in international waters with like-minded folk where you can do what you like and create your own little sovereign state. Libertarian Bitcoiners, in particular, love the concept and keep making attempts to realize it, including an abandoned attempt to turn a cruise ship into the MS Satoshi, and a Bitcoiner couple who set up a floating home 15 miles off the coast of Thailand and declared their independence only to get hauled in by the navy and charged with violating Thai sovereignty.

Jessica Gonzales, who is Chasses partner and chief marketing officer of Master Ventures, explains:

The ultimate goal of House of Dao is were going to be a small nation. Were going to be our own nation. Thats where its going: micronation. And thats our alliance with the Seasteading Institute.

Chasse clarifies its not a formal alliance but says the guys behind the institute have agreed to mentor them.

Given how difficult it is to make seasteading work in reality and who wants to live on an oil rig anyway the island of Koh Pha-ngan thats only accessible by ferry seemed the next best option. A bohemian wonderland of days-long parties, magic mushrooms and yoga enthused spiritual egoists, the normal rules dont apply here. At Full Moon Parties, they soak chains in petrol and set them alight to use them as giant skipping ropes for drink and drug-affected tourists to burn themselves on. So, its a whole heap of fun, but you can get yourself into serious trouble.

Koh Pha-ngan, its a bit more of the wild west than it is here, he says from the comfort of his Phuket villa. You dont really ask for permission for anything. You just always assume that theres gonna be some type of fee you have to pay to somebody.

 

 

Utopia
The view from Cryptopia

 

 

Chasse looked at every single resort and available piece of land on the island. If youre thinking about starting a new government structure and having room to experiment with what that looks like would need privacy. And so, that was really important to me.

And finally, Utopia (resort) is where I decided to do it because its really amazing. We called it Cryptopia at the time. You travel up this steep hill for a while and then youre in a kind of beautiful serene place.

Perched atop the hill at Haad Thong Lang Bay with fantastic views of the Gulf of Thailand, he made a deal to buy the resort for 17 million baht (about $510,000 at the time), and took over 35 villas, paying for everything himself.

Reality bites

Unfortunately, of course, Chasse admits he had no idea how to manage a resort. On the day all the responsibilities for the staff, utilities and everything became his, the water went out.

The water came from a waterfall nearby, and sometimes, an animal or something knocks the pipe out of the stream. And suddenly, there was no water. So, it was an interesting first day.

Once a Bitcoin miner
Available at all good book stores, and plenty of bad ones too.

Around 30%40% of the Cryptopia residents were on the Master Ventures payroll, but word spread far and wide, attracting high-profile visitors, such as Bitcoiner Tone Vays, on-chain analyst Willy Woo and Carl the Moon Runefelt.

There were people from China who ran the George Bush family fund, and not to mention The King of Viral Media, Dose media founder Emerson Spartz. Didi and the Bitcoin family stayed for months he agrees to speak with me about it but then ghosts me for some reason.

Just incredible people came through. A lot of people invited their families to come out, too, which was kind of what I wanted.

One resident was author and occasional Magazine contributor Ethan Lou, who described a very similar sounding commune on a Thai island but doesnt actually name Cryptopia in his book Once a Bitcoin Miner. So, it was probably a totally different one.

I lounged by the penis shaped pool During the incubators crazier days, people used to have orgies in the water, I was told. The big boss who funded everything was an early Bitcoiner and had made a fortune, but he had little experience or perhaps even the will or desire to run an incubator. People had come and gone, staying for free, indulging in unchecked merrymaking. At least once, they had allegedly brought over a shaman. The ‘burn rate,’ what was needed to maintain the facilities alone, was $20,000 per month.

Lou writes that he had planned to write off his residency as a business expense for tax purposes but later realized he couldnt point to a single business matter that arose from that trip.

The longer I stayed, there the longer I had no idea what I was doing on that island.

 

 

 

 

Hard Forking founder Sean Stella stayed for months at Cryptopia and made a short documentary about his time there.

Didi gave me a call when I was living in Singapore and said, Check this out. So, I jumped on the plane the next day, met Tone Vays and Willy Woo at the airport, and we all jumped in a taxi together and went up there and hung out. I made friendships and connections through Kyle and what he was doing that have lasted to this day.

I was there for three or four months, and it was fantastic. It was some of the most interesting months of my life. He basically took over a whole resort and financed the whole thing. I didnt have to put my hand in my pocket.

 

 

Pool
Does this pool look penis-shaped to you?

 

 

Stella reports that plenty of work was actually completed and scotches the idea that it was some sort of non-stop party.

There was certainly fun to be had, but no, it wasnt, he says. The funny thing with a lot of the crowd was they werent drinkers. Very intellectual.

Is that a euphemism for everyone was microdosing LSD, I ask him?

Oh, I have no idea, he says with a grin. Drugs are illegal.

Lous recollection of life at the resort was more candid, and he writes of looking out at the incredible sea view one day in wonder and how the remnants of Ecstasy, speed, mushrooms and LSD coursed through my system as I welcomed the dawn.

I will never forget how, for a few fleeting moments that day, the world looked like perfection.

Cointelegraph Magazine contributor Elias Ahonen was also a resident while writing his book Blockland. He suggests that the dosing that may or may not have occurred was probably more macro than micro.

Of course, any drug use by visitors was entirely incidental to the point of the Cryptopia it was more just part of life on Koh Pha-ngan. As described in Part 1, the island is the kind of place where people go out for one drink and then wake up four days later in a field with a headache pounding in time to a hardcore psychedelic trance.

It’s fun until its not: one digital nomad who lived elsewhere on the island told us of a good friend and colleague who ended up getting so immersed in the non stop partying lifestyle that he had a psychotic break, and they had to rush him off for treatment before he was deported. Another digital nomad said they were leaving the island, in part due to the negative aspects of the drug culture.

Chasse says that while he doesnt condone that aspect of life on Koh Phangan, he believes everyone has the right to do what they like with their own bodies.

Like, Im not going to judge you for that as long as you get your work done, he says. Looking back, I think whether we maybe we turned a blind eye to it, I think maybe we would have been, some of the team members might have been more productive out of that environment. Because, you know, maybe they were hungover at work or something like that.

I mean, definitely on Cryptopia 1.0, that was a huge problem.

Ahonen, who managed business operations for a short time, says he found the team generally hardworking and ambitious but says that the utopian dreams of new forms of governance seemed more trippy than anything else.

There were appeals to a fantastical utopian future that wasnt entirely grounded in reality, which is perhaps very true to the crypto brand.

Kyle had a vision of using blockchain, decentralization and Libertarianism to transform the worlds basic organizational structures he once seemed to suggest that I could perhaps rule over a private country one day, when the new order came.

The ideals of the crypto-Libertarian vision brought some political tensions, as the vision of a community-run enterprise conflicted with the fact Chasse was in charge, and many of the residents were either his staff or projects he was funding and helping.

I think part of it was my fault for misleading people in the way that things would be governed there, I think, maybe alluded a little bit too much toward the fact that, like, I wanted to convert this into a DAO, he says.

I think a lot of people who went there with the idea that, like, they would have significant say in what would happen, but I wanted people to work on the things that we had to work on. So, this is why some people left and some people stayed

 

 

Master Ventures
A nice drone shot from the House of DAO video.

 

 

How it ended

There are a few different accounts of how Cryptopia fell apart. Stella thinks market conditions and a disagreement over the resorts ownership were to blame. Foreigners cant directly own Thai real estate for one thing except in a complicated setup through a company sponsored by the Board of Investments.

It was crypto winter. The price of Bitcoin plummeted, while I was living there, and youll have to ask Kyle, but my understanding was he wanted to buy the resort, and it seemed to boil down to a negotiation over the purchase of it.

Chasse says the miscommunication with the owner… wasnt handled in a civil way.

He was clearly wrong in trying to sell me property he couldnt sell me. But he was able to have the police set up in front of Utopia and eventually come up and get me and take me to the station and question me and try to get me to sign a confession for something I didnt do.

It didnt shake me too much. I dont really get too scared. But some people left after that event happened; some people just left Master Ventures altogether they were terrified. And some of our core team were also pretty freaked out about it.

He also had a nasty falling out with a really terrible business partner that led to the end of not just Cryptopia but that incarnation of Master Ventures, too, in early 2019.

I fired the entire team, like, a month before I left Utopia. My partner was horrible and tried to take over the whole thing in a coup dtat, and so, I just told Lex, the guy who was helping me on the ground, to kick everyone out.

 

 

Jessica and Kyle
Jessica Gonzales and Kyle Chasse Source: Twitter

 

 

House of DAO

Six months later, he met Gonzales on a dating site in the United States. She was attracted by his lifes purpose.

Its quite unconventional, right? she says over drinks in their impressive living room, a world away from Koh Pha-ngan.

He wanted to transform the world with cryptocurrency as the way, and Ive always known my whole life, my parents instilled this into me since I was a little girl basically brainwashed me believing that I had a huge role to play in helping transform the world.

 

 

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They resurrected Master Ventures, launched Paid Network (which grew from a dispute resolution service to also encompass a crypto launch pad) and rebranded the crypto commune as the House of DAO.

The blockchain smart village had an expensive-looking website and slick video ads promoting Asias premier blockchain hub where:

Blockchain startups from around the world come together under one roof to accelerate their decentralized visions uniting the worlds best advisors to turn startup visions into reality.

The House of DAO was all set to launch at The Cabin Resort in Haad Rin the same location of Leela Beach where Chasse had stayed for his first Full Moon Party all those years ago. But at the last minute, they pivoted to Coconut Island off the coast of Phuket. All the websites and marketing materials still said Koh Pha-ngan (which is how I stumbled across this whole story) perhaps in an attempt to fly more under the radar at their new home.

There were several events that led to, ultimately, the desire to escape from KP for a while, says Chasse.

 

 

 

 

The authorities apparently werent too enamored with their ads featuring jet skis, attractive women and digital nomads working hard and partying harder as they conflicted with the official COVID-safe narrative of the time. And after trekking to every resort on Koh Pha-ngan, Chasse also thought none of them offered enough privacy. That wasnt a problem on Coconut Island, which has just one resort, a couple of restaurants and a small village.

 

 

 

 

While it seemed like a great idea at the time, having just 20 people from Master Ventures take over a deserted 700-bed resort, with little chance of attracting new residents due to the pandemic, wasnt ideal.

At first, it started out really great. Like, it was a beautiful location perfect for what we wanted to do.

There were a few times when family and friends were there it felt like it was supposed to feel when it was more sociable and more full. We looked at each other and thought this would be amazing and it felt right. It was super encouraging to carry on.

At the time, they thought the pandemic was just about over, and Thailand was about to reopen to the world. They were wrong.

It was just quite lonely there and quiet. If you had 400 people, and theyre all in crypto, it would have been fine, he says. It led to a lot of people feeling really down because they felt super isolated.

The second, or third, iteration of Cryptopia/House of DAO shut down around September last year.

 

 

 

 

Cryptolands House of DAO v1

Meanwhile, Chasse had been sent an early cut of a promotional video for the Cryptoland project that Max Olivier and Helena Lopez had been working on for three years. Their idea was to crowdfund the purchase of a Fijian island to set up a crypto community by selling NFT plots of land. Impressed with their vision for a 600-acre complex, which theyd negotiated to include the next House of DAO, Chasse bought the first plot of land.

We get the House of DAO infrastructure included in it, and it solves a lot of our problems, he says. Wed still be on a private island but next door having a poppin-like crazy resort with tons of entertainment and things to do.

Unfortunately, Web3 Is Going Greats Molly White got hold of the promo video in January, and it went viral for all the wrong reasons. It has a talking Bitcoin, groan-inducing references to memes like shitcoin casinos, cutlery-based jokes, such as Im not a fan of forks, and theres even an ill-advised musical number.

The internet tore it apart.

 

 

 

 

People say any press is good press, but this was really, really bad, he says, adding that the founders were defamed as scammers despite having the noblest of intentions.

They never took a dollar from anyone. It was one of the worst things Ive ever seen happen to such nice people, he says. Its amazing how much effort they put into this thing, he says. And then all of a sudden, when they decide to reveal themselves vulnerable, they just get smashed down.

After it went viral, the Fijian government reportedly contacted the project via their lawyers and discouraged them from proceeding.

Chasse says hes still a big supporter of Cryptoland, which is now looking at different locations from the Bahamas to Dubai.

 

 

HOD
The House of Dao website pays tribute to the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do.

 

 

Lets do it in the metaverse

Chasses plan, for the time being, is to watch how decentralized governance models experiment and iterate in DAOs and the metaverse before trying again in the real world.

Im really excited about the whole idea of DAOs and metaverse and these things hypothesizing and delivering and failing and succeeding. And so, this is going to expedite the whole process of trying to physically do it with real people and real families.

The twist in the tale is that now that Chasse and Gonzales have stopped trying so hard to construct a crypto community, one has grown around the Master Ventures hub anyway. Around 40 staff and their family members orbit around the villa now.

I think that in building a community, theres an element of it that has to happen organically, Chasse explains. Chief technical officer Ben Stahlhoods wife and kids have joined; Gonzales brought out her parents and four sisters; and Chasses mom has visited and is now thinking of selling her beach house back in Ventura to move over permanently.

Its interesting because ever since v2 shut down Coconut Island and we all kind of found our own places, people started to bring their families, flying in their kids, the communities continue to grow, maybe not under this official flag anymore, he says.

Gonzales agrees:

What I think weve realized is that we are the House of DAO. Our team, were the heart anyway. Like, its our team members. Its their families.

Read Part One here:

Thailands crypto islands: Working in paradise, Part 1

 

 

 

 

Soulbound Tokens: Social credit system or spark for global adoption?

Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterins Soulbound Token proposal for a robust identity and reputation system has stirred up the crypto community.

Soulbound Tokens or SBTs are non-transferable, non-financialized tokens tied to a unique profile proving verifiable achievements and commitments. Still at the concept stage, its suggested SBTs will be capable of tracking memberships, credentials and affiliations with educational establishments, decentralized lenders and other entities.

Supporters say that SBTs could be the use case for the next bull market. But others have likened the concept to Chinas social credit system and say its an expensive solution to a problem thats already been solved.

So, which is it? Lets take a deeper dive.

 

 

Soulbound Tokens
Soulbound Tokens: Not sure about the name but the concept is interesting.

 

 

Web3 should be more than financial assets

Last month, Vitalik Buterin and co-authors Glen Weyl and Puja Ohlhaver released a paper outlining their vision for Soulbound Tokens, which would enable individuals to accrue permanent non-tradeable records of merits and attributes and store them in a private blockchain wallet.

These would form an essential building block for a decentralized society, or DeSoc, which points away from the current hyper-financialized state of Web3 and depends on non-transferable social relationships of trust. The crypto world, the co-authors say, will move past simple transferable financialized assets.

 

 

 

 

The non-transferable Soulbound Tokens represent credentials, commitments and affiliations and are linked to our Souls. To put it simply, they are tokenized representations of a whole host of possible traits, features and achievements that make up a person or entity. Souls can also issue and attest SBTs to other Souls. Students will receive an SBT, for example, from a college, which will also be represented by its own Soul.

Why we need Soulbound Tokens

Co-author Glen Weyl, an economist with RadicalxChange, provided the core ideas for the paper on Soulbound Tokens. When I get through to him on Zoom, he is just getting his board ready for a paddle around Lake Washington next to his house. As he saunters down to the waterfront, he explains why this new concept is vital.

Right now, almost all the things that happen in the Web3 ecosystem are purely financial objects: Theyre transferable and saleable wrappers, like wallets of transferable saleable assets, like tokens and currencies, theres no actual such a thing as a person. All there is, is a financial holding account, he says.

 

 

 

 

For Weyl, moving decentralization away from just financial objects is critical, even for making the financial aspects of the space work well, as well as for allowing for much more interesting futures.

Weyl believes that without social relationship development, financial relationships on Web3 will continue to be difficult. Its just like a feature of reality, that our social relationships are the fabric on top of which financial relationships are built. And a system thats not able to represent that is going to be extremely limited, hyper financialized, anarcho-capitalist etc.

In a sense, SBTs are a sort of universal aggregation system. Crucially, its not built in the top-down way Chinas social credit system is imposed on the population, but is instead a bottom-up community system owned and governed by network users. You can also have multiple Souls.

 

 

 

 

People would have like two or three [wallets] that represent different, very distinct aspects of your life. You might have one for your health profile, which would all be encrypted and would only have access to doctors or something. You might have one that represents a professional life, like your CV. You might have one that represents personal relationships those might all be unlinked from each other.

Weyl sees Soulbound Tokens as bringing the same values of decentralization to real human relationships and communities. The key element is that the tokens cant be transferred across people. Now what a person is, is actually really subtle when you build it within the Web3 space.

 

 

Graphic: @Leo_Glisic
Soulbound Tokens. Source: @Leo_Glisic

 

 

Decentralized verifiable credentials already exist, so this isnt some sort of Soulbound NFT versus off-chain identifiers debate. SBTs are likely to be a small subset of verifiable credentials that are imbued into an NFT on a blockchain.

Storing verifiable credentials in Web3

Evin McMullen is a co-founder and the CEO at Disco.xyz, which specializes in verifiable credentials and storage solutions in the metaverse. Appearing on the Bankless podcast recently, she said Soulbound Tokens will help bring new communities into the crypto space for the first time.

Its a really exciting moment in our ecosystem because we are looking at our own role in Web3 in a different way than we have before. And so, we as a community have the opportunity to go meet people where they are on their own journeys, which means that we can reach out to so many communities who havent yet engaged with Web3.

 

 

 

 

The tokens are intended to be anchored to the notion of what someones accurate social identity is. A true and indisputable list of achievements, credits and recommendations. McMullen said:

Being able to describe the qualitative traits that we have, as individuals, as non-financial contributions to our communities, things like our achievements, our capabilities, our friendships, relationships, our memberships and secret societies, all of these traits describe us as humans, and deserve the ability to interact with our smart contracts.

 

 

 

 

So, in essence, SBTs are designed to be building blocks to reshape how we interact with one another, build and manage communities. Weyl says thinking about simply recording a resume on a blockchain is too narrow a conception.

Its almost more like some combination of your resume and the set of Facebook groups that youre part of. It represents affiliations that you have.

 

 

soulbound fortune
Fortune notably compared SBTs to China’s social credit system.

 

 

Fuddy duddy FUD

Self-confessed fuddy duddy and Ethereum bear Knifefight isnt buying the pitch, though. He runs the online publication Something Interesting and has been around the tech sector for 20 years.

I think it is a kind of collision of things that have already existed for a long time and things that dont need to exist and theyre sort of mixed together, he tells Magazine. The advantages of one are used to mask the disadvantages of others.

To me, what I see is a very expensive proposed solution to a problem that seems already solved.

For Knifefight, a Soulbound Token is just a digitally signed message that somebody writes about an individual. This has been done before and can be done in other ways.

I think its hard to make the case that we do need it because its hard to make the case you couldnt have already built it for decades. The things that are new here are storage methods, not the things that allow you to issue or to assess.

 

 

Knifefight
Artist impression of Knighfight.

 

 

Knifefight says he struggles to understand the need for Soulbound Tokens, or as he puts it, a collection of subjective opinions. The more that the subjective opinions youre trying to aggregate are similar, the more your aggregation provides value, the more that youre just trying to aggregate arbitrary information, the more youre just like recreating the internet.

He believes there wont be any sudden surge of demand for Soulbound Tokens, not least of which because theyll be super expensive and unwieldy because theyve been put on blockchain.

Use cases and how they might work

But a sudden surge of demand is precisely what Ty Smith is banking on. Smith is the CEO of Coinbound, a Web3 marketing company with 20 employees. Its one of the first companies to get on board with SBTs.

Soulbound Tokens have many use cases straight away: verifying exclusive membership to an exclusive community where you need to be approved by a central authority is a big one. I think thats going to be probably the biggest use of it.

Smith tells me Coinbound has what it calls a mastermind group for entrepreneurs. We are exploring using Soulbound Tokens to give members something that just proves that they are an approved person because we dont want someone to be approved to be part of our community and then go and sell their membership essentially to someone else.

Smith is excited about using SBTs as a way to demonstrate your credentials. You can get a degree on a blockchain, but you cant prove that youre the person that earned the degree until Soulbound Tokens came along. So, this is an innovation that I think is necessary if we are to look towards a more Web3-enabled future where proof of attending a college and getting a degree or proof of working at a certain employer is needed.

But for Knifefight, SBTs are a really expensive and unnecessary way to record a degree. He points out that employers wont care if you kept multiple copies of a degree or who stored the degree. All they care about is who issued that degree and who it was issued to. They dont care about the provenance. Theres no double-spend problem, he says.

 

 

Degrees
Do we really need to have degrees tied to our Souls?

 

 

The double-spend problem describes the difficulty of ensuring digital money is not easily duplicated and cant be spent twice. Bitcoin solved the issue by allowing every member to verify every transaction.

If youre not double-spending, you dont need a blockchain, and its not trivial to use block space, its expensive. Knifefight says theres no reason that a degree or other credential needs to be mediated through blockchain, It could work the same way over email, or chat, like, theres many different ways that people can pass cryptographically signed information back and forth between each other without it having to be stored on a blockchain.

Decentralized loans and digital country clubs

Buterin told Bankless recently that blockchains are indeed useful in this situation. He said they provide account management and keep track of time, which confirms authenticity and patterns of reliability. Buterin added that Soulbound Tokens will also be able to prove you didnt do something, just as well as it proves you did. For example, one possibility is that Soulbound Tokens will make it easier to obtain decentralized loans.

If you want to take out a loan, then one thing you might want to be able to do is prove that you havent taken out any other loans or prove that you havent taken out more than a certain number of other loans. In this case, you would take on a reputation token that you cant hide, even if you wanted to.

Buterin said this would be to prove the absence of those tokens or prove that you have less than a certain number of those tokens in order to show that you havent actually taken out many loans yet.

 

 

Loans
SBTs showing what you have and havent done could be useful for loan applications.

 

 

Coinbounds Smith also believes critics are missing the point. I think people fail to see the need for SBTs because we havent yet seen what a true digital country club essentially looks like, a true membership-only. You have to be of a certain caliber to be part of this group community. He says the unique aspect of SBTs that define them from NFTs is the non-tradeable part, which will help communities know that when they take on initially approved members, those members cant then simply sell on their SBT, like is currently possible with NFTs.

Soulbound Tokens, a better technology?

Smiths brother, Troy, is an engineer running his own Web3 business called Versify. Even before the white paper on Soulbound, he was already building a platform to enable companies to create and distribute NFTs easily. Troy Smith explains, Its very funny timing because what Versify is doing is kind of creating NFTs that are going to be used just like Soulbound Tokens are going to be used. But SBTs are actually a better technology for what Im building.

He says many of his clients have been using NFTs in a similar way to SBTs. The difference is that SBTs cant be sold on. Soulbound Tokens are a much better fit for this type of thing. Because why would you want to transfer an Employee of the Month badge to someone else, you shouldnt be able to do that.

 

 

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Like his brother Ty, Troy is super bullish on the technology. He explains how he sees it working:

If you had the most sales for your company, youd get airdropped a Soulbound Token to your wallet, where you could go off and show it to whoever you want or take it with you to your next employer because your wallet obviously stays with you.

He says the immutable nature of SBTs and how they fit into a wider decentralized society is what sets it apart.

Troy continues, Its just ideas and a white paper right now. So, once it is actually implemented, Id love to help do that. I would like to be the first platform that is actually enabling businesses to issue Soulbound Tokens.

Weyl says its the indisputable patterns that are identified in your Soulbound wallet that are going to be the most powerful, but he says the first problems they will combat are voting fraud, wallets with no accountability, and users making fake or multiple versions of NFTs that were supposed to be scarce.

If youre going to join a DAO, someone might be afraid that youre a Sybil, he says, referring to an attacker who attempts to subvert the services reputation system by creating a huge number of identities to gain large influence. Unless you have enough SBTs that its plausible, they can figure you out, so you might have trouble joining certain opportunities if you havent got a sufficiently rich pattern of SBTs.

 

 

Souls
The name conjures up images of the divine.

 

 

Social recovery, the game-changer for security

According to Weyl, security will be the killer app for SBTs. Right now, you have a choice between custodial wallets, which undermine the whole efforts of decentralization, and noncustodial wallets, which are subject to all the hacking problems. The idea with Soulbound is based around community recovery where your account or Soul will be tied to a set of peers, referees and authority figures who can unlock your wallet.

Weyl explains, For example, if you had your employer, your university, the DAO that you participated in, and a newspaper that you wrote for, the algorithm might choose three of those affiliations.

 

 

 

 

Of course, privacy concerns abound, but mitigating against that, a lot of things in the Web3 ecosystem are already highly public. Weyl gives me the example of if I were an artist making NFTs, Id likely issue press releases, describing the limited nature of the editions. Those statements of ownership at the moment are stored on Web2 sites like OpenSea or Twitter.

If artists could instead have a wallet or a Soul that represents their public profile and contains the information that theyre asserting about the NFTs that theyre issuing, thats just, like, a much better fit than either the current solutions.

Its all in the name, but does Soul work?

The name itself has attracted a lot of attention, given its relationship to divine and eternal concepts. The co-authors say it might just be a holding name to explore the concept, and Weyl admits it may not stick.

Soulbound terminology, I think, is probably not an ideal basis for something that becomes a technical standard. On the other hand, I think it does help inspire people to think in a different way about things, and it inspires our artists and our imaginations.

 

 

 

 

As Weyl picks up the pace on his paddle board across the lake, he tells me he expects Soulbound Tokens will really get going and will have taken on mass adoption by 2024, in the next upcycle.

After speaking with him, its hard not to get caught up with the enthusiasm for SBTs. But gazing into a crystal ball to know how the future will pan out is often a fruitless endeavor.

For his part, Knifefight is fairly confident SBTs are just a gimmick that wont pan out.

I dont think normal people will issue or have Soulbound Tokens by 2024. I dont think major businesses will rely on Soulbound Tokens to make business decisions. I dont think you will be able to translate your Soulbound Token into any significant material value, he says. However, he freely concedes that anyone who predicts the future with certainty could be made to look like a fool.

So, Im foolish for having made those predictions because they will certainly now be invalidated in some surprising way!

 

 

 

 

The trouble with automated market makers

Automated market makers are a true public good in crypto, enabling genuinely decentralized trading 24/7 and supporting the wider DeFi ecosystems. But theyre not without a host of problems, writes digital economist and academic Christos A. Makridis.

The decentralized finance (DeFi) market has surged since 2021, growing from just over $20 billion to nearly $160 billion as of March 2022, compared with a rise in the total cryptocurrency market from $433 billion to $2.5 trillion over the same period.

While the recent crypto washout in the wake of the collapse of Terras LUNA and UST has caused the market value of DeFi to fall almost all the way back down to $60 billion, there is still optimism in the crypto community and the market value will largely return for major crypto assets in the months and years ahead.

 

 

Trouble with AMMs
The trouble with AMMs.

 

 

The rise of DeFi has been thanks largely to the presence of liquidity made possible through automated market makers (AMM). Whereas centralized exchanges function as a custodian of their customers funds and function as a matchmaker for demand and supply, decentralized exchanges (DEX) do not have a custodian.

Instead, peer-to-peer trading, as it was initially designed, is facilitated through a traditional AMM mechanism that says the product of any two assets must always equal some constant. In other words, if Bitcoin and Ether holders put $100 worth in a pool, then the product of the two assets always has to equal $100. If, however, a holder buys more Bitcoin, then the price of Bitcoin rises, and the other side provides more Bitcoin so that the equation balances. The hope is that the pool has many liquidity providers so that there is never a situation where the price of an asset rises so fast that there is insufficient liquidity to facilitate a trade at a reasonable price.

Liquid gold

AMMs have played an integral role in creating liquidity in the overall market. The latest research by Gordon Liao, head of research at Uniswap Labs, and Dan Robinson, head of research at Paradigm, shows that Uniswap v3 has around 2X greater market depth on average for spot ETH-dollar pairs, relative to their centralized exchange counterparts, such as Binance and Coinbase.

Here, liquidity is measured using market depth, which refers to how much one asset can be traded for another asset at a given price level. One reason for greater market depth is that AMMs can unlock a more diverse set of passive capital and institutional investors who have different risk profiles.

 

 

Uniswap 1
Uniswap research.

 

 

Since the inception of Uniswap, other AMM designs have emerged, recognizing that the product of two tokens, X and Y, always equaling a constant, K, is not always the most efficient trading strategy i.e., x*y = K as Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital, pointed out in 2020. When a buyer purchases large quantities of X, they can experience slippage, which is when buying a token drives the price up before the order finishes executing it (or selling it drives the price down). Slippage can be costly, especially during times of high trading.

To attract greater liquidity and avoid high slippage rates, DEXs have begun to offer extreme incentives for people to stake tokens in exchange for governance rights (and often a slice of protocol revenue), leading to the curve wars, which is a label for the ongoing race to offer better terms of trade. The race to offer better conditions may have some unintended consequences on creating mercenary capital, but the requirement of staking tokens in exchange for governance rights has also created much good.

Curve wars are representative of the fact that governance has some value being able to govern how a protocol distributes its incentives even within its own protocol is very powerful: If you force people to commit to make a decision about something in governance, you can create powerful feedback loops, Kain Warwick, founder of Synthetix, tells Magazine. Warwick has been called affectionately the father of modern agriculture for his role in popularizing yield farming.

Giving away ownership of a protocol in the early part of its lifecycle to the people who provide feedback and test it is incredibly powerful It is a tool you just dont have in the traditional startup world. We are witnessing a renaissance of decentralized finance strategies.

Front running

Although there are many comparative advantages that DEXs hold over centralized exchanges, most notably greater security and opportunities for community building among token holders, AMMs are imperfect. One of the major limitations to AMMs is the phenomenon of front running, which happens when another user places a similar trade as a prospective buyer, but sells it immediately after. Because the transactions are public, and the buyer has to wait until they can get added to the blockchain, others can view them and potentially place bids. Front runners are not trying to execute the trade; rather, they are simply identifying transactions and bidding on them to drive up the price so that they can sell back and earn a profit.

 

 

 

 

By sandwiching the original bid from a buyer with a new bid, the speculator has the effect of extracting value from the transaction. In practice, miners are often the catalysts behind front running, leading to the term miner extractable value (MEV), referring to the rents that a third party can extract from the original transaction. These sandwich attacks have largely been automated and implemented by bots, accounting for the bulk of MEV. In an academic paper, Andreas Park, professor of finance at the University of Toronto, said:

The intrinsic transparency of blockchain operations create a challenge: an attacker can sandwich any trade by submitting a transaction that gets processed before the original one and that the attacker reverses after.

Unfortunately, these attacks are driven by an incentive problem inherent in second-generation blockchains. Validators may not have sufficiently strong incentives to monitor private pools because this reduces their MEV, so the execution risk for users who join these private pools goes up, Agostino Capponi, an associate professor of industrial engineering and operations research at Columbia University, explains to Magazine.

Capponi, together with co-authors, elaborate on this in a recent working paper that points out how private pools do not solve this front-running risk or reduce transaction fees other solutions are required. Capponi continues, Frontrunning attacks not only lead to financial losses for traders of the DeFi ecosystem, but also congest the network and decrease the aggregate value of blockchain stakeholders.

 

 

 

 

Front running can also affect liquidity provision. Price oracles or mechanisms for providing information on prices play an essential role in ensuring adequate liquidity exists in the market. If the latest prices are not reflected on-chain, then users could front run the price with trades and earn a profit. For example, suppose that the latest price of ETH is not reflected on an exchange, which has it lower. Then, a user could buy ETH at its true price but sell it for potentially more, thereby earning a profit.

While price oracles help ensure adequate liquidity, no amount of liquidity can solve the core issue that transactions on-chain need to be as current as possible. Warwick explains:

Price oracles do not directly help because they are pushing information on-chain. If you can front run a change in an AMM, you can front run an oracle update, too. Any transaction sequencing is going to introduce the potential for front running.

That is a challenge that Warwick has personal experience with: In 2019, Synthetix lost billions (technically if not in practice) as a result of an oracle pricing error. Although the funds were returned, the incident demonstrates how costly errors can be.

Look no further than last week when an oracle pricing error on the Mirror Protocol on Luna Classic led to another exploit. Validators on Terra Classic were reporting a price of $0.000122 for both Luna Classic (LUNC) and the newly-launched LUNA when the new LUNA should have been at $9.32. Although the error was eventually fixed resulting from an outdated version of the oracle software the exploiter got away with well over $30 million.

 

 

Defi fees
DeFi fees are a source of ongoing revenue, although not all tokens provide holders with a cut.

 

 

Challenging business models

AMMs were a revolutionary quantitative mechanism for enabling peer-to-peer trading because they instantaneously settle transactions after they are confirmed and included on the blockchain, and they allow any user to contribute liquidity and any buyer to trade tokens.

However, AMMs have largely relied on expectations of future growth to drive their valuations; the revenue from transaction fees is not only small but also fundamentally linked to the liquidity providers not the exchange. That is, while Uniswap could take the fees as revenue, the way the smart contracts are written is such that the revenue goes directly to the liquidity providers.

 

 

 

 

Given that APRs from trade fees might be low, especially in newer AMMs, DEXs rely on offering their governance token for incentives, requiring a high price valuation to onboard and retain liquidity providers. These providers are often mercenary capital going wherever the short-run return is higher. Black swan events, as well as volatility in the market, can damage AMMs beyond repair. For example, volatility in the exchange rate across tokens can lead to a liquidity freeze, according to Capponi and Ruizhe Jia, a Ph.D. candidate at the University of California, Los Angeles.

The reality of the Uniswap business model is not an indictment; it creates incredible value, as evident by recent estimates of its daily trading volume of around $131 million. Rather, that it does not produce revenue is a function of its business model and actually makes Uniswap more of a public good for people in the DeFi community than anything else.

[AMMs] offer an integral service but dont adequately capture the value they provide through their token the current models simply do not provide a transition from pre-revenue speculation to postmoney sustainability, according to Eric Waisanen and Ethan Wood, co-founders of Hydro Finance, in their April white paper.

Emerging business models

Front running is a problem in large part because pending transactions are generally visible, so a bot can detect it, pay a higher gas fee, and thus, the miner processes the transaction first and impacts market pricing.

One way to avoid this is by hiding the transactions. The use of zero-knowledge proofs and other privacy-preserving solutions is becoming increasingly popular because it is thought to minimize front running and MEV attacks by obfuscating the size and time of transactions that are submitted and verified.

 

 

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Hydro Finance is a relatively new project being built on the Secret Network, a privacy-preserving blockchain with smart contracts that contain encrypted inputs, outputs, and state. an encrypted mempool, according to the Network.

Hydro is trying to decouple itself from the permanent reliance on external liquidity providers by growing its own treasury of Protocol Owned Liquidity, and it also codifies buy-pressure through the inflation of the assets that it supports. Instead of giving all of the trading fees to the liquidity providers, the DAO controls the revenue, and the liquidity providers receive the DRO token.

AMMs, in their current form, are impractical but necessary services upon which the growth of DeFi is reliant. It is imperative that we evolve them past their inceptive shortcomings for the ethos of freedom and decentralization in finance to mature, co-founder Waisanen says.

Although AMMs have been absolutely integral to the expansion of the DeFi community to date, new business models may be required to sustain the community going forward. The curve wars that were observed in 2021 are unsustainable in the long run because there is not enough demand for different tokens. Ultimately, the value of a token comes down to the value of the community, which requires a core team to lead and direct traffic. Time will tell how current challenges to the problems plaguing AMMs fare, but one lesson is clear: The DeFi community will need to apply best practices from business to make sustainable and scalable organizations succeed.

 

 

 

 

Thailand’s crypto islands: Working in paradise, Part 1

Walking into Remote and Digitals La Casa co-working space on the tropical island of Koh Pha-ngan, you wonder how anybody gets any work done. I sip a cocktail and wait for my burrito as James Brown plays in the background.

Theres a real palm tree growing at the edge of the cafe, and behind it sits shallow crystal blue water stretching off for miles, with Koh Samuis jungle-covered mountains jutting up in the distance. Adding to the ambiance, kite surfers are getting massive air off small waves, before gently floating back to earth.

30-year-old Belgian blockchain developer Jrme Van Vlierbergen is one of the regulars at this Ban Tai co-working space and runs his Equinox Launchpad here. He explains Koh Pha-ngan (or Koh Phangan) has a thriving crypto scene, mostly populated by digital nomads like himself.

There are a bunch of people here that own crypto or theyre doing something with crypto because when you have money, you like to be somewhere where its a nice place to live.

Ironically, of course, you need very little money to live here. You can rent a desk at La Casa for less than $3 a day, rent a scooter to get around for under $4 a day, and rent a whole house for $500 a month. With beautiful food, postcard-style views and half a dozen other coworking spaces with gigabit internet, its no wonder Koh Pha-ngan has become something of a mecca for crypto digital nomads.

 

 

Working in paradise
Its remarkably easy to join the crypto community in Thailand.

 

 

Theres this crypto island vibe you can find a lot of workshops, a lot of people that work with crypto, and most of them are in the market, says Van Vlierbergen. Crypto social media groups based on the island suggest hundreds of residents are deep into the scene.

Crypto island

Known for its legendary Full Moon Party, Koh Pha-ngans 12,000-strong population doubles or triples at times with American, European and Russian backpackers drawn by the endless parties, yoga scene and general chilled out vibe. Its probably one of the last bohemian island hideouts left in Asia, with package tourists seemingly unwilling to take the ferry ride over from neighboring Koh Samui.

Theres no airport here, says Edwin de Lepper, who runs the crypto-friendly Buddha Cafe. So, it is a journey to get here with the boat, which makes it kind of exciting…

Jerome Van Vlierbergen
Belgian blockchain developer Jrme Van Vlierbergen at the office.

Since the end of the pandemic, hes noticed an uptick in crypto digital nomads mostly concentrated around the co-working spaces of Tropicana, Sunset Hill Resort, Signature Restaurant and High Life Resort.

De Lepper explains recent visitors include big influencers such as MMCrypto (948,000 Twitter followers) and James Crypto Guru (74,000 YouTube subscribers).

There is a tremendous amount of people that come here, and they talk to me and they say, Oh, yeah, Im building a new DEX, or Im building a new crypto project, he says.

I would say there are crypto whales here. The people that are here that I might suspect that they have a lot of money, they dont talk about it. You dont want to scream it from the rooftops I guess.

Koh Pha-ngan isnt the only place in the region attracting crypto digital nomads, with a growing scene in the Thai island of Phuket, another in Chiang Mai in the north of the country, as well as other locales in Southeast Asia, including Bali.

Guy Allison, founder of Blockchain Careers, says that many in the crypto scene flit between Koh Pha-ngan and Chiang Mai.

A lot of people do six months in Koh Pha-ngan and six months in Chiang Mai because the weather can get quite rainy here in OctoberNovember, then they go back to Chiang Mai. And then they come back here in February March for the smoky season.

Thats when farmers burn their fields and biowaste during the dry season to prepare the land for the next years crops, which helps create a thick fog of air pollution around Chiang Mai for months.

 

 

Edwin De Lepper
Buddha Cafe owner Edwin de Lepper

 

 

Work from home, but move home

Paid Network and Master Ventures founder Kyle Chasse called the island home for some time, though he can now be found in the more upscale villas of Phuket. He says people realized during the pandemic that if you could do your job from home, you could pretty much work from anywhere.

Hello, youre working from your house, you have the freedom, he says, pointing out that Thailand is also super cheap compared to the United States.

You have amazing infrastructure; your cost of living is gonna go down your transportation, your food, your utilities, your cell phone everythings cheaper.

Chasse moved to Koh Pha-ngan in 2018 after hearing of a budding Bitcoin community on the island. I went and checked it out and fell in love with it, he says, adding its so safe due to the influence of Buddhism that there have been numerous times hes left his phone or wallet behind only to have someone return it to him.

One of the things I love the most is the people. And of course, its truly like paradise, he says.

 

 

Full Moon Party
Koh Phan-ngans legendary Full Moon Party. Source: fullmoonparty-thailand.com

 

 

The safety of Thailand was a big plus for Vlierbergen, who started off his digital nomad days traveling through the decidedly less friendly Central America and Mexico four years ago while working as a web designer. Having taught himself Solidity, he then graduated to the much better-paid blockchain industry. Good pay thanks to the deficit of qualified devs and a decentralized workforce make crypto the perfect industry for travelers.

 

 

 

 

When the pandemic struck in March 2020, he was already in Asia and headed to Koh Pha-ngan to ride out the storm. But despite enthusing about island life, he admits theres a darker side that social media influencers dont want to show.

Most of the time, it is fake. They want to show the best side of it, he says about digital nomad influencers.

I dont really want to party anymore or take drugs or drink alcohol, you know? And when you travel mostly what they want to do is to get fucked up. So, I think one of the many negative sides of it its how you can feel like, sometimes lonely and hard to connect with people.

Three days later

If you do enjoy partying of course, then being on a tropical island surrounded by beautiful people with a new party to go to every day means its not always easy to find the motivation to get any work done.

Allison laughs about that one.

Its quite a party place. Its difficult to concentrate solely just on work. And I might see someone in the street on a bike who was going to a party, and next thing you know, three days have passed. So, thats the issue, he laughs.

 

 

 

 

Allison explains there are three scenes in Koh Pha-ngan: the party scene (drugs), the bar scene in Thong Sala (booze) and the yoga scene (spirituality). Yoga retreats are a big appeal for some the sorts of places people go on juice cleansing diets for two weeks. In a sad coincidence while Im on the island, Australian cricketing legend Shane Warne dies of a heart attack after a two-week juice diet fast a few kilometers away on neighboring Koh Samui.

All of them [the different scenes] seem to be quite focused on, you know, not doing that much work, he says.

 

 

Thong Sala
Its hard to take a bad picture on Koh Pha-ngan.

 

 

Van Vlierbergen watched one of his digital nomad friends have a complete breakdown after partying too hard for too long.

He was partying, doing a lot of drugs hardcore and microdosing as well [at work during the day] and then he had this, how you call it when your brain just switches off…

“So, this guy went crazy. We had to help him, had to get him to go to a hospital before he got deported back to the U.S.

How practical is it?

Living and working in Thailand requires a visa, of course, and there are a variety of options from hard-to-get special tourist visas that allow you to stay nine months a year through to elite visas that cost 600,000 Thai baht ($17,300) but enable you to stay for five years.

You can also get an education visa as long as you spend a few days a week learning Muay Thai kickboxing or studying the language. Most new digital nomads simply get a 30-day tourist visa, extend it for another 30, then take a quick weekend trip to a neighboring country to start the process all over again. Technically, youre not supposed to actually work on any of these visas, but as long as youre not taking work away from locals, the government reportedly doesnt seem too fussed.

The holy grail though is the forthcoming digital nomad visa costing just 10,000 baht ($290), which the Thai government has announced… but hasnt yet been implemented.

 

 

Sean Stella
Hardforking founder Sean Stella, left. Source: Facebook

 

 

Blockchain media company HardForking founder Sean Stella says its been on the cards for a while.

Things dont typically happen quickly in Thailand, he explains. But every country is wrestling with how to attract people to their countries and make it easy, so I would hope a digital nomad visa to visit Thailand becomes a reality in the near future.

Stella has been a digital nomad since long before the term even existed. Its a lifestyle choice, he says. For me, Ive been doing it for 20 years. I cant envisage any other way of living.

Crypto is an enabler. The phenomenon of being a digital nomad has been around before crypto. But crypto is facilitating the ability for anybody to make a lifestyle choice to go and live wherever the hell they want.

Koh Pha-ngans crypto scene in 2016

Originally from New Zealand, Stella moved to Asia in 2005 and has spent most of his time between Singapore and Thailand, with Koh Pha-ngan a favorite locale over the past seven years. He fell in love with the place at the same time he discovered crypto in 2016 while filming a documentary called Living the Dream about expats who had moved to paradise.

The middle of that process, crypto crossed my path and slapped me in the face. I went, Holy shit, this is amazing. He fell deep down the rabbit hole, socializing with a group of crypto fans every Monday at a bar with mining rigs in the toilets.

Youd go in there and take a pee standing next to a Bitcoin mining rig, he laughs.

Fast forward a couple of months. Heres me paying my bar bills in Bitcoin. We created a little economy amongst ourselves. So, I literally went from using Thai baht to everything I did, to paying for hotels, paying my bar tabs, paying for a meal within this little ecosystem on Koh Pha-ngan and Koh Samui, I just operated in crypto.

That ecosystem has mostly disappeared, however, says de Lepper, who bemoans the fact Koh Pha-ngan doesnt live up to its Crypto Island reputation.

What does that mean, Crypto Island? That means that everybody can go here to the shops and pay in Bitcoin or Dash or whatever it may be. But were not there yet. De Lepper does his best by providing free education for business owners on how to accept crypto and which coins to accept.

Stella estimates there were around 5060 crypto fans on the island in 2016 when he arrived, and numbers took off in 2017. But Paid Networks Chasse says that when he arrived in 2018, interest had tailed off due to the effects of crypto winter.

 

 

 

 

Numbers picked up once again in 2019 with the arrival of large numbers of Russian crypto hippies. There was a lot of idealism, people that understood that the financial infrastructure that we blindly followed was broken, says Stella.

Chasse helped revitalize the local scene when he took over the Utopia resort to create his Cryptopia crypto community, which later rebranded as House of DAO (more about that in part two).

Stella lived at Utopia resort for months and filmed a short documentary (above) about the experience featuring his good friend Didi from the Bitcoin family, and guest stars the on-chain analyst Willy Woo and Bitcoin influencer and occasional insurrectionist Tone Vays.

 

 

 

 

Stella created his media brand HardForking to help educate people about crypto. Its now incorporated in Panama and has set up what Stella calls a legal DAO, where participants create content and are rewarded in both stablecoins and with equity tokens in the DAO.

Effectively, I want 1,000s of content creators who are digital nomads living all over the planet to create content for HardForking. And they are rewarded for their efforts.

Our intention is to build the first legal Dao in crypto media, or media in general.

Heart of the community

The beating heart of the crypto community on Koh Pha-ngan these days is de Lepper, who runs the Buddha Cafe in Haad Salad. Originally from the Netherlands, de Lepper moved to the island three years ago and later rented the former cafe as a place to live.

But when people kept turning up asking for coffee, he reopened it and started running weekly talks called Living Library on interesting topics. Researching one of these about crypto, he became obsessed, and the weekly talks became Crypto Cafe each Wednesday morning with regular guests from various projects.

Edwin
De Lepper has made it his mission to help educate residents and visitors to the island about crypto.

Theres a bank of computers in an alcove at the back for learning how to trade, stake or set up wallets, and hes running Cryptocation sessions to teach tourists about the space.

This island is special because it does have a different energy, he explains. I feel at home and feel free here. And its a beautiful community that is big enough that you dont see each other every day, but you see each other every week.

De Lepper says crypto offers everyone the chance to go live in paradise.

If you know those opportunities, and you start collecting the right projects, the right tokens, over time, you can build up enough money that you can live off the interest.

He estimates there are about 300400 people on the island who work in crypto in some fashion.

One of those is Allison, who runs his Blockchain Careers business from co-working spaces or his home office. We meet for a Korean meal and beers at an open-air restaurant in Thong Sala. He explains that hes been in Thailand since 2011, starting in hospitality recruitment in Bangkok and then moving to Koh Pha-ngan just as COVID-19 struck. On an education visa, he learns the Thai language three days a week, online between work. I probably need to do it every day, but Im sort of getting nearly there.

He fell into crypto recruitment after discussing plans with Chasse that didnt eventuate but led to a gig sourcing talent for Hathor Network. His main client now is Parity Technologies, which developed the Parity Ethereum client, Substrate and Polkadot.

Most of my clients are actually in Europe, a few in South America. Ive got one in America that Im speaking to now. But over time, I want to try and get 60% or 70% of the business in Asia because Im sick of working nights! he laughs.

 

 

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Crypto to go mainstream

Allison says Singapore, Vietnam, Hong Kong and now Thailand are becoming hotspots for crypto in the region, citing the Stock Exchange of Thailands development of a new digital asset exchange and Siam Commercial Banks takeover of the Bitkub crypto exchange in November last year.

I think thats a sign that crypto will go mainstream in Thailand. Its the first traditional bank in the world to buy outright a crypto exchange. And theyve actually come out and said theres gonna be no tax on crypto profits in Thailand, which is a good thing. They seem to want to adopt.

 

 

Guy Allison
Guy Allison at a Korean restaurant in Thong Sala. Despite the baffling heat, few restaurants have AC.

 

 

But personally, Allisons time in Koh Pha-ngan is coming to an end. When we spoke, he had just got back from a trip scoping out Chiang Mai as his new home.

Ive been doing it for two years, and I feel like Ive hit a wall creatively, he says. A lot of people are quite extreme here. Theyre either escaping addiction or they are addicts themselves. And there doesnt seem much in between. So, its difficult, you know?

Maybe I just need somewhere a bit more normal. It is nice here, but a lot of people are very transient, so youll make a good friend, and theyll be gone next week. Whereas Chiang Mai and Phuket a lot of people do live there, and its stable.

In Chiang Mai, he was particularly impressed with the Yellow co-working space, which also offers a business incubator and VC funding. He says thats the sort of infrastructure Koh Pha-ngan is lacking right now.

Im a startup as well, and they said they can help with potential loans in the future. So, for me anyhow, it seemed more serious for work. So, I will try it out probably for six months and see how it goes. And then I can always come back here if I dont like it.